2007-04-09T00:01:17 <dreimark> now inline can use EmbedObject too
2007-04-09T00:06:16 <besonen_mobile2> xorAxAx: one more question before i get back to my project. can i manually encode the slash so as to be able to create initial content say via sftp and then have moin find said content?
2007-04-09T00:06:39 <xorAxAx> besonen_mobile2: sure
2007-04-09T00:06:49 <xorAxAx> besonen_mobile2: are you coding in python?
2007-04-09T00:06:59 <besonen_mobile2> tinkering
2007-04-09T00:07:10 <xorAxAx> well, the function is in MoinMoin.wikiutils
2007-04-09T00:07:16 <xorAxAx> somewhere
2007-04-09T00:07:19 <besonen_mobile2> thanks
2007-04-09T00:09:40 <besonen_mobile2> xorAxAx: and if i wanted to dump a bunch of files into a moin directory will moin create a page simply with link to these files?
2007-04-09T00:10:10 <xorAxAx> well
2007-04-09T00:10:28 <besonen_mobile2> s/link/links/
2007-04-09T00:11:48 <dreimark> gn
2007-04-09T00:11:53 <xorAxAx> you can use attachments
2007-04-09T00:15:53 <besonen_mobile2> xorAxAx: it would be nice if moin could be instructed to auto-attach all files in a particular directory. might this be possible with a small amount of work?
2007-04-09T00:16:27 <xorAxAx> well, that can be done using xmlrpc
2007-04-09T00:16:39 <xorAxAx> we are in th wrong channel btw
2007-04-09T00:17:25 <besonen_mobile2> i know. i appreciate the tolerance, if that's what it is.
2007-04-09T00:19:04 <besonen_mobile2> fwiw, when i've asked similar questions in #moin and moin-uer i've received zero replies.
2007-04-09T00:19:16 <besonen_mobile2> s/uer/user/
2007-04-09T00:20:07 <besonen_mobile2> another reason i was leaning towards dokuwiki. i received responses to my questions.
2007-04-09T00:21:02 <xorAxAx> well, choose it if you get more replies
2007-04-09T00:21:35 <besonen_mobile2> ? is that a serious suggestion?
2007-04-09T00:22:05 <besonen_mobile2> i;m going to look into xmlrpc, btw. thanks for mentioning it.
2007-04-09T00:23:02 <grzywacz> Hm, how about getting CIA bot to report on moin repository changes? :)
2007-04-09T00:23:11 <xorAxAx> grzywacz: does it support hg?
2007-04-09T00:23:16 <grzywacz> Yes.
2007-04-09T00:23:22 <xorAxAx> thats a good idea, i would appreciate it
2007-04-09T00:23:24 <grzywacz> http://cia.vc/doc/clients/
2007-04-09T00:23:35 <xorAxAx> but i heared about projects that had to wait for months
2007-04-09T00:23:44 <xorAxAx> until the bot finally joined
2007-04-09T00:23:49 <grzywacz> The sooner applied... ;)
2007-04-09T00:24:33 <grzywacz> I joined #commits a few minutes ago and... whoah. Looks much more active than only our (wesnoth) cia. ;)
2007-04-09T00:24:47 <xorAxAx> can you apply there? i think you can register all live repos, that includes 1.5, 1.6, 1.6-accessibility and the new soc ones
2007-04-09T00:24:59 <grzywacz> Let me see...
2007-04-09T00:24:59 <xorAxAx> thats all bots together?
2007-04-09T00:25:10 <xorAxAx> (the new soc ones arent there yet)
2007-04-09T00:25:13 <grzywacz> One bot reporting everything.
2007-04-09T00:25:20 <xorAxAx> heh, does that make any sense?
2007-04-09T00:25:22 * xorAxAx tries
2007-04-09T00:25:43 <grzywacz> Just wait a few minutes.
2007-04-09T00:25:48 <besonen_mobile2> ok, i'm really getting back to my project now. thanks again for the replies, especially xorAxAx. y'all may very well have just picked up another moin user and tinkerer.
2007-04-09T00:26:07 <besonen_mobile2> peace, david
2007-04-09T00:26:26 <xorAxAx> the power of opensource ...
2007-04-09T00:27:05 <grzywacz> You mean #commits? If so, that's only a fraction of work being done. ;)
2007-04-09T00:27:28 <xorAxAx> i know
2007-04-09T00:27:42 <xorAxAx> but its impressive to see that there is always somebody working
2007-04-09T00:27:58 <grzywacz> I know you know, just a reflection. :)
2007-04-09T00:28:00 <xorAxAx> for a common goal or at least with a common goal in mind
2007-04-09T00:28:06 <grzywacz> Yeah. :)
2007-04-09T00:30:19 <grzywacz> Can the image in the top-left corner of http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ be considered the project's logo?
2007-04-09T00:30:21 <grzywacz> ;)
2007-04-09T00:31:44 <xorAxAx> yes
2007-04-09T00:31:59 <xorAxAx> we started a poll and then one year later, we decided on the logo
2007-04-09T00:34:59 <grzywacz> :>>>>
2007-04-09T00:35:33 <grzywacz> We now need someone to install the repo scripts.
2007-04-09T00:35:58 <xorAxAx> hi CIA-28
2007-04-09T00:36:03 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: ping :-)
2007-04-09T00:36:08 <xorAxAx> grzywacz: URL?
2007-04-09T00:36:33 <grzywacz> https://cia.vc/clients/hg/hgcia.py I guess
2007-04-09T00:39:36 <grzywacz> Here's our stat page http://cia.vc/stats/project/moin
2007-04-09T00:39:44 <grzywacz> Empty so far. ;)
2007-04-09T00:41:55 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, there are a few options to be set in this script and these should be project = moin and user = grzywacz
2007-04-09T00:51:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2007-04-09T00:57:22 <grzywacz> Oh, and maybe base_url too.
2007-04-09T00:57:42 <grzywacz> *baseurl
2007-04-09T01:02:03 <grzywacz> CIA-12 KDE: (If i can be a class, i'd like to be KActionCollection.. it's something mysterious about it and i like it.)
2007-04-09T01:02:03 <grzywacz> lol
2007-04-09T01:02:52 <xorAxAx> :-)
2007-04-09T01:06:23 <xorAxAx> moinBot: say hi to CIA-28
2007-04-09T01:06:23 <moinBot> xorAxAx: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
2007-04-09T01:06:37 <xorAxAx> not very friendly, those bots nowadays
2007-04-09T01:06:50 <grzywacz> What's moinBot?
2007-04-09T01:06:58 <xorAxAx> the logging bot
2007-04-09T01:07:08 <ThomasWaldmann> should i see something there after a commit?
2007-04-09T01:07:12 <grzywacz> Ah, ok. I thought that maybe it's something similliar to wesbot.
2007-04-09T01:07:16 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, I guess so...
2007-04-09T01:07:31 <xorAxAx> after a push presumely
2007-04-09T01:07:35 <grzywacz> Yes.
2007-04-09T01:07:40 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i had to upgrade to 0.9.3
2007-04-09T01:07:48 <xorAxAx> shouldnt harm
2007-04-09T01:07:55 <grzywacz> CIA can lag sometimes, but it shouldn't be the case now.
2007-04-09T01:08:09 <xorAxAx> usually, its instantitious
2007-04-09T01:09:05 <xorAxAx> much faster than the notification setup of e.g. pypy - the svn server sends a mail to a list that gets processed by mailman, sent out to another server, which parses the mail and send the message via irc to the channel
2007-04-09T01:09:12 <ThomasWaldmann> # the module (subproject) (optional)
2007-04-09T01:09:13 <ThomasWaldmann> module = main
2007-04-09T01:09:17 <ThomasWaldmann> is this a problem?
2007-04-09T01:09:32 <grzywacz> No idea. :)
2007-04-09T01:09:38 <grzywacz> Maybe it has to be registered first.
2007-04-09T01:09:41 <xorAxAx> grzywacz: could you register different subprojects?
2007-04-09T01:09:51 <xorAxAx> i dont think so if it says optional
2007-04-09T01:10:01 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: the script has to be accessible by your hg-wrapper user
2007-04-09T01:10:04 <grzywacz> I see nothing like that on the website.
2007-04-09T01:10:37 <xorAxAx> maybe you can try a dry run or is it difficult to invoke it?
2007-04-09T01:11:53 <grzywacz> Wait.
2007-04-09T01:11:55 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann.
2007-04-09T01:12:06 <grzywacz> It says to set these options in hgrc ;D
2007-04-09T01:12:50 <grzywacz> Strange stuff.
2007-04-09T01:16:15 <ThomasWaldmann> i did
2007-04-09T01:16:32 <ThomasWaldmann> it gets invoked (had crashes with 0.9.0)
2007-04-09T01:16:45 <ThomasWaldmann> now it doesnt crash
2007-04-09T01:16:55 <grzywacz> But nothing appears...
2007-04-09T01:29:17 <ThomasWaldmann> error: incoming.cia hook raised an exception: __init__() takes exactly 7 arguments (6 given)
2007-04-09T01:30:27 <grzywacz> :\
2007-04-09T01:35:54 <grzywacz> Maybe this version of the script is broken.
2007-04-09T01:55:59 * ThomasWaldmann runs out of senseful changes to commit :)
2007-04-09T01:57:01 <grzywacz> Do you push them as well?
2007-04-09T01:57:19 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2007-04-09T01:57:41 <grzywacz> No idea what may be wrong, sorry. :\
2007-04-09T01:57:58 <ThomasWaldmann> that __init__ problem would be easier to fix if one knew which class that is
2007-04-09T01:58:30 <ThomasWaldmann> i tried different revs of hgcia, all have that problem
2007-04-09T01:58:57 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.hgcia.org/
2007-04-09T01:59:25 <grzywacz> Wrong one. ;)
2007-04-09T01:59:41 <grzywacz> http://cia.vc/stats/project/hgcia
2007-04-09T02:09:08 <CIA-28> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 1975:d47a4625af84 /README: updated (c) year in README
2007-04-09T02:10:07 <ThomasWaldmann> ah :)
2007-04-09T02:10:18 <ThomasWaldmann> back at rev 4 hgcia works :)
2007-04-09T02:10:22 <grzywacz> Nice. :)
2007-04-09T02:10:49 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, now find the bug
2007-04-09T02:15:40 <CIA-28> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 1976:e14d2407b0ab /MoinMoin/_template.py: updated (c) year in _template.py
2007-04-09T02:22:36 <grzywacz> I think I'm going to sleep for a while. Good night. :)
2007-04-09T02:27:32 <CIA-28> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 1977:abcbc20e8f8f /MoinMoin/ (config/multiconfig.py xmlrpc/__init__.py): raise unzip_attachments_count to 101, some other minor changes
2007-04-09T02:27:46 <ThomasWaldmann> gn grzywacz
2007-04-09T09:09:56 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-04-09T09:12:07 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1978:f6262ee86e0b /MoinMoin/ (config/multiconfig.py macro/EmbedObject.py): EmbedObject: make mimetypes configurable
2007-04-09T09:12:29 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe, CIA is watching you
2007-04-09T09:13:31 <dreimark> he
2007-04-09T09:13:56 <dreimark> moin
2007-04-09T09:14:51 <ThomasWaldmann> http://cia.vc/stats/project/moin
2007-04-09T09:19:31 <dreimark> nice
2007-04-09T09:33:26 <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, do you ever sleep? :)
2007-04-09T09:39:08 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but my irc client runs on a internet server :)
2007-04-09T09:39:28 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1981:6c58db46c2ed /MoinMoin/macro/EmbedObject.py: EmbedObject:minor optimisation
2007-04-09T09:39:28 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1982:ecae6138ee1b /MoinMoin/search/builtin.py: merged main
2007-04-09T09:39:53 <ThomasWaldmann> hey, I fixed hgcia for hg 0.9.3 :)
2007-04-09T09:40:46 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:why do I see only my changes and not yours?
2007-04-09T09:43:33 <ThomasWaldmann> on the url I posted you see both (except for the commits when I tried some broken hgcia revision)
2007-04-09T10:03:20 <dreimark> Russell Stuart/EmailActivation sounds similiar to jakubs mail approved registration
2007-04-09T10:06:16 <ThomasWaldmann> jakub is doing a psf project for soc, so it doesnt matter. i didnt look at that code yet.
2007-04-09T10:13:17 <ThomasWaldmann> his docs look pretty good
2007-04-09T10:16:26 <dreimark> yeah
2007-04-09T10:16:51 <ThomasWaldmann> indenting and module usage needs to get fixed
2007-04-09T10:19:47 <dreimark> license info is missing
2007-04-09T10:24:00 <ThomasWaldmann> i added a comment on his page
2007-04-09T10:46:10 <dreimark> multiconfig: mimetypes_xss_protect seems not to be used ?
2007-04-09T10:52:24 <ThomasWaldmann> it should be
2007-04-09T10:54:02 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: see AttachFile
2007-04-09T10:57:09 <dreimark> found it,
2007-04-09T10:58:21 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:hmm, do I create some security trouble using EmbedObject for inline and 'application/x-shockwave-flash'
2007-04-09T10:58:50 <dreimark> inline calls for that embed too
2007-04-09T10:59:17 <xorAxAx> dreimark: if the flash file has access to the cookie, you do
2007-04-09T12:07:53 <dreimark> xorAxAx:http://www.cgisecurity.com/lib/flash-xss.htm#_Toc18055083
2007-04-09T12:08:26 <xorAxAx> ok, so its insecure to display them inline
2007-04-09T12:10:46 <dreimark> unfortunately
2007-04-09T12:39:35 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1983:c563b49b8b03 /MoinMoin/ (config/multiconfig.py macro/EmbedObject.py): EmbedObject:removed mimetype application/x-shockwave-flash from defaults
2007-04-09T12:41:43 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1984:efafd0dd3ff8 /MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py: multiconfig: removed private var
2007-04-09T12:43:17 <dreimark> what is the price for 2000:
2007-04-09T14:37:29 <lanius> helo
2007-04-09T14:37:34 <xorAxAx> hi lanius
2007-04-09T14:39:48 <xorAxAx> lanius: and, what do you think, will you be chosen as one of the students? :-)
2007-04-09T14:40:32 <lanius> i hope so :-)
2007-04-09T14:40:52 <lanius> Thomas invited me to irc again, but i couldn't join earlier since i made a short trip to spain over easter
2007-04-09T14:41:01 <xorAxAx> oh, thats ok
2007-04-09T14:41:10 <xorAxAx> i hasnt started anyway yet
2007-04-09T15:08:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hi lanius
2007-04-09T15:10:42 <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: I slightly cleaned up the storage related pages on the wiki (but they are still a mess). Maybe title and full text search for "storage" to get a picture of it.
2007-04-09T15:12:09 <ThomasWaldmann> I guess it would do no harm if we have a clearer plan before you start coding. :)
2007-04-09T15:12:42 <xorAxAx> yes, getting an overview is the most time consuming part at the beginning
2007-04-09T15:12:48 <xorAxAx> keppy deferred it and lost.
2007-04-09T15:14:02 <ThomasWaldmann> there is also some code in the 1.4, 2.0 and storage branches you could have a look at
2007-04-09T15:17:56 <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/Release_2.0/StepByStep this is one of the better pages maybe
2007-04-09T15:20:37 <ThomasWaldmann> (of course you should primarily look at the moin/1.6 main repo, that is the code we will start with)
2007-04-09T15:23:36 <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: still there? :)
2007-04-09T15:26:24 <ThomasWaldmann> I hope this wasn't too shocking. :D
2007-04-09T15:54:08 <dreimark> Do we have already something to search only in all Chat/Logs/moin-dev* for a given text
2007-04-09T15:54:48 <xorAxAx> dreimark: HelpOnSearching
2007-04-09T16:06:24 <dreimark> :)
2007-04-09T16:28:25 <lanius> ThomasWaldmann: that means i'm in?
2007-04-09T16:29:15 <ThomasWaldmann> well, nothing is 100% sure yet.
2007-04-09T16:29:21 <ThomasWaldmann> but 99% :)
2007-04-09T16:29:30 <lanius> wow, cool
2007-04-09T16:30:30 <lanius> you think there is some usefull code in the rep from last soc?
2007-04-09T16:30:50 <ThomasWaldmann> take it with some grains of salt
2007-04-09T16:30:53 <xorAxAx> you can have a look at his metamodel
2007-04-09T16:31:02 <xorAxAx> but it wont be very enlightening i fear
2007-04-09T16:32:44 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess looking around at all stuff, making a model in your mind and dumping it regularly on a wiki page is a good start
2007-04-09T16:34:01 <lanius> yeah
2007-04-09T16:34:16 <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: if you dont see my query, please register your nick with NickServ /msg NickServ help
2007-04-09T16:34:17 <lanius> somehow my internet connections sucks today, i'm getting disconnected all the time
2007-04-09T16:53:52 <CIA-28> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 1985:eb5328be394e /MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: AttachFile:destinguish between zip and other fileformats using zip archives
2007-04-09T17:47:33 <dreimark> xorAxAx:http://www.cgisecurity.com/articles/xss-faq.shtml suggests to escape more signs
2007-04-09T17:48:14 <xorAxAx> dreimark: what of that page do you mean exactly?
2007-04-09T17:48:26 <dreimark> What can I do to protect myself as a vendor?
2007-04-09T17:49:14 <xorAxAx> well, thats not a very technical description, it is lacking background information
2007-04-09T17:49:44 <xorAxAx> usually, it is enough to escape everything using the appropriate wikiutil function that is going to request.write
2007-04-09T17:49:56 <xorAxAx> (or by using the formatter.text method if it is page content)
2007-04-09T17:54:01 <dreimark> right
2007-04-09T18:02:57 * ThomasWaldmann configured skype. maybe nice for SOC, too.
2007-04-09T18:04:33 <ThomasWaldmann> anyone else having it configured for a conference call test?
2007-04-09T18:05:25 <xorAxAx> i do
2007-04-09T18:06:48 * ThomasWaldmann is thwaldmann
2007-04-09T18:07:25 <dreimark> I have used my wikiname, but I have to remember the password
2007-04-09T18:11:16 <dreimark> and i do have a gtalk account too
2007-04-09T18:44:28 <ThomasWaldmann> funny :)
2007-04-09T18:45:30 <xorAxAx> yes
2007-04-09T18:46:09 <ThomasWaldmann> somehow I had the feeling i need 2 pcs when i ordered a headset for a customer last week
2007-04-09T18:49:48 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, is voice spam an issue with skype?
2007-04-09T18:50:23 <xorAxAx> havent seen/heard voice spam
2007-04-09T18:50:30 <xorAxAx> but its proprietary
2007-04-09T18:56:45 <dreimark> :)
2007-04-09T19:26:48 <grzywacz> Anyway, do you already know how many slots did Moin get?
2007-04-09T19:35:33 <ThomasWaldmann> it is not final, but currently at 5
2007-04-09T19:36:10 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we have to reduce to 4 due to student vanishing
2007-04-09T19:37:01 <ThomasWaldmann> grzywacz: btw, we had a skype test this afternoon, maybe you could use that, too, for SOC?
2007-04-09T19:37:27 <grzywacz> I've been having some network problems as of late, but sure, I can give it a try.
2007-04-09T19:38:15 <grzywacz> How likely am I to get accepted, if I may ask? I'd like to know if I have to bug stpeter. ;)
2007-04-09T19:39:13 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it's not 100% sure and not final, but maybe 98% :)
2007-04-09T19:40:35 <ThomasWaldmann> so you can start looking at moin src and the tools, the wiki etc. :)
2007-04-09T19:43:59 <grzywacz> I've already started. :D
2007-04-09T19:44:04 <grzywacz> Call it hope. ;)
2007-04-09T19:55:48 <lanius> what does the stuff in the filter/ directory do?
2007-04-09T20:00:07 <grzywacz> Seems to work.
2007-04-09T20:00:17 <grzywacz> Not that I can hear you perfectly, but it should be ok. :)
2007-04-09T20:08:40 <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: it is for xapian indexer
2007-04-09T20:09:00 <ThomasWaldmann> so it can get the textual content from different file formats (attachments)
2007-04-09T20:14:04 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, lots of those subdirectories are built-in plugins and have their counterpart under data/plugin/*
2007-04-09T20:14:31 <ThomasWaldmann> so a wiki admin can drop his own plugins there
2007-04-09T21:32:17 <lanius> bye bye
2007-04-09T22:55:08 <grzywacz> bbl
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